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		<title>By: joseph</title>
		<link>http://beatblogging.org/2008/07/25/comments-add-value-to-newspaper-web-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-5903</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cultivating the news conversation has to be a new mission for newspapers.</description>
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		<title>By: gus sentementes</title>
		<link>http://beatblogging.org/2008/07/25/comments-add-value-to-newspaper-web-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-3228</link>
		<dc:creator>gus sentementes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

Could not agree more with your post. Could you or the bloggers you cover address what this type of community building and commenting means for a blog&#039;s metrics. Specifically, what is the average time spent on these news blogs by users who are allowed and encouraged to comment? And why can&#039;t the industry shift from a pageview-centric approach to one where the &quot;stickiness&quot; of the reader is a valuable commodity that ad sales teams can sell against?

I think if you look at most newspaper sites, you&#039;ll find that people might click on news stories a ton but spend a lot less time with them than in areas of a website where they can leave comments, i.e. chat rooms, discussion forums.

To me, the future of newspaper websites and the industry as a whole is taking that conversation -- where it&#039;s now typically in a &quot;ghetto&quot; on most news websites -- and bringing it front and center to the entire online news experience. Just my 2 cents. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>Could not agree more with your post. Could you or the bloggers you cover address what this type of community building and commenting means for a blog&#8217;s metrics. Specifically, what is the average time spent on these news blogs by users who are allowed and encouraged to comment? And why can&#8217;t the industry shift from a pageview-centric approach to one where the &#8220;stickiness&#8221; of the reader is a valuable commodity that ad sales teams can sell against?</p>
<p>I think if you look at most newspaper sites, you&#8217;ll find that people might click on news stories a ton but spend a lot less time with them than in areas of a website where they can leave comments, i.e. chat rooms, discussion forums.</p>
<p>To me, the future of newspaper websites and the industry as a whole is taking that conversation &#8212; where it&#8217;s now typically in a &#8220;ghetto&#8221; on most news websites &#8212; and bringing it front and center to the entire online news experience. Just my 2 cents. <img src='http://beatblogging.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Leaderboard for week of 11-10-08: the wisdom of the crowd &#124; BeatBlogging.Org</title>
		<link>http://beatblogging.org/2008/07/25/comments-add-value-to-newspaper-web-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Leaderboard for week of 11-10-08: the wisdom of the crowd &#124; BeatBlogging.Org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week&#8217;s Leaderboard features beat bloggers who know how to cultivate their online communities and who listen to the wisdom of their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Norton</title>
		<link>http://beatblogging.org/2008/07/25/comments-add-value-to-newspaper-web-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>James Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so we have a community newspaper - and after enjoying wild success as a result of our first five years with typepad and the ability to blog/anonymous comments, etc - we now have a &quot;professional&quot; newspaper geared website, but we miss the blogging/commenting part of the typepad utility. a lot of our readers do too. doesn anyone know of some kind of conduit which would allow me to somehow bridge this readership gap we have created by alienating our most avid typepad readers and be able to integrate it seamlessly into our current package? or am i doomed and should really look at other website hositing options?

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so we have a community newspaper &#8211; and after enjoying wild success as a result of our first five years with typepad and the ability to blog/anonymous comments, etc &#8211; we now have a &#8220;professional&#8221; newspaper geared website, but we miss the blogging/commenting part of the typepad utility. a lot of our readers do too. doesn anyone know of some kind of conduit which would allow me to somehow bridge this readership gap we have created by alienating our most avid typepad readers and be able to integrate it seamlessly into our current package? or am i doomed and should really look at other website hositing options?</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Beeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Beeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gawker post was indeed link-bait, but it did have a valid intention: shining some light on the &quot;ghetto&quot; that are comments on newspaper stories.

But how did the ghetto form? I think it&#039;s because they&#039;ve been neglected in the manner you&#039;re fighting against.

By hiring a community manager (or whatever you want to call it), and encouraging reporters to respond to user comments, newspapers can take back these ghettos and turn them into productive neighborhoods.

I see far too many newspapers leaning on technology for a solution to getting rid of errant comments when the solution is simply a real voice. If we reach out to users, and teach them how we expect them to interact with the site, we can improve the quality of content overall.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gawker post was indeed link-bait, but it did have a valid intention: shining some light on the &#8220;ghetto&#8221; that are comments on newspaper stories.</p>
<p>But how did the ghetto form? I think it&#8217;s because they&#8217;ve been neglected in the manner you&#8217;re fighting against.</p>
<p>By hiring a community manager (or whatever you want to call it), and encouraging reporters to respond to user comments, newspapers can take back these ghettos and turn them into productive neighborhoods.</p>
<p>I see far too many newspapers leaning on technology for a solution to getting rid of errant comments when the solution is simply a real voice. If we reach out to users, and teach them how we expect them to interact with the site, we can improve the quality of content overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so unbelievably passionate about this subject that all I could do was ignore that Gawker post. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re talking about it here. I won&#039;t recount everything you said in this post because I pretty much agree with it all. I have two words of advice. Hire moderators! We do at WRAL.com and they are on my staff, as I am the Managing Editor of UGC.  It&#039;s not that hard. Close comments and you seem as pompous as ever. Newspapers need to lost the arrogance. It is so ridiculous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so unbelievably passionate about this subject that all I could do was ignore that Gawker post. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re talking about it here. I won&#8217;t recount everything you said in this post because I pretty much agree with it all. I have two words of advice. Hire moderators! We do at WRAL.com and they are on my staff, as I am the Managing Editor of UGC.  It&#8217;s not that hard. Close comments and you seem as pompous as ever. Newspapers need to lost the arrogance. It is so ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newspaper comments strike me as a no-brainer. If the online world is going to discuss news stories, it only make sense for a newspaper to try and capture a piece of that conversation (and the associated page views.)

As Patrick ably notes, it&#039;s also critical to community building.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspaper comments strike me as a no-brainer. If the online world is going to discuss news stories, it only make sense for a newspaper to try and capture a piece of that conversation (and the associated page views.)</p>
<p>As Patrick ably notes, it&#8217;s also critical to community building.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Thilmony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg Thilmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they&#039;re important, but for now, my company only allows them on editorials and university sports stories we run. It seems that policy has been around for a while. I think a few people in this company, myself included, are hoping to challenge it. I think it will dramatically increase page views.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they&#8217;re important, but for now, my company only allows them on editorials and university sports stories we run. It seems that policy has been around for a while. I think a few people in this company, myself included, are hoping to challenge it. I think it will dramatically increase page views.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kent,

When we talk about driving comments, we have to look at individual blogs.

Some blogs and posts will get a lot of traffic but not a lot of comments. Others are a bit flipped like yours.

Let&#039;s say you didn&#039;t allow people to comment on your blog. What do you think would happen to your page views? I guarantee it would go down noticeably.

That&#039;s what I mean by driving traffic. Allowing comments will give an individual blog more traffic. It doesn&#039;t mean that a lot of comments will translate into a ton of page views, but it does mean that a blog is getting more page views than it otherwise would have.

Also, comments help bolster another important Web metric -- time spent on a Web site. Do you have access to that information? Many people (advertisers) feel time spent is more important than raw page views, and comments are a great way to encourage people to spend more time per browsing session on your blog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kent,</p>
<p>When we talk about driving comments, we have to look at individual blogs.</p>
<p>Some blogs and posts will get a lot of traffic but not a lot of comments. Others are a bit flipped like yours.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you didn&#8217;t allow people to comment on your blog. What do you think would happen to your page views? I guarantee it would go down noticeably.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I mean by driving traffic. Allowing comments will give an individual blog more traffic. It doesn&#8217;t mean that a lot of comments will translate into a ton of page views, but it does mean that a blog is getting more page views than it otherwise would have.</p>
<p>Also, comments help bolster another important Web metric &#8212; time spent on a Web site. Do you have access to that information? Many people (advertisers) feel time spent is more important than raw page views, and comments are a great way to encourage people to spend more time per browsing session on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Fischer, Dallas Morning News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Fischer, Dallas Morning News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Comments ... drive traffic...&quot;

Do they? That&#039;s a statement that should be supported by some research. Hey, I&#039;m a big fan of interacting with readers via comments -- Pat cites me as a &quot;what&#039;s right&quot; example in this post, in fact -- but ...

My blog gets about 15,000 page views a week and draws on average 175 comments. But there are blogs at my organization with much bigger page view numbers that don&#039;t get nearly as many comments. And there are a few that get more comments than I do with smaller page views.

What a good, vibrant comment section does is build your recurring reader base. Folks interested in your topic will come back if they know there&#039;s a decent discussion going on there. Is that &quot;driving traffic?&quot; Yes, in a sense. But it&#039;s not a given that active comments will result in oodles of page views.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Comments &#8230; drive traffic&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Do they? That&#8217;s a statement that should be supported by some research. Hey, I&#8217;m a big fan of interacting with readers via comments &#8212; Pat cites me as a &#8220;what&#8217;s right&#8221; example in this post, in fact &#8212; but &#8230;</p>
<p>My blog gets about 15,000 page views a week and draws on average 175 comments. But there are blogs at my organization with much bigger page view numbers that don&#8217;t get nearly as many comments. And there are a few that get more comments than I do with smaller page views.</p>
<p>What a good, vibrant comment section does is build your recurring reader base. Folks interested in your topic will come back if they know there&#8217;s a decent discussion going on there. Is that &#8220;driving traffic?&#8221; Yes, in a sense. But it&#8217;s not a given that active comments will result in oodles of page views.</p>
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